Tanio Koba H&k Vp70m Airsoft Gbb
Tanio Koba H&k Vp70m Airsoft Gbb
Tanio Koba - If you lot don't know the name, here's a quick lesson... Tanio Kobayashi�due south story began twoscore years agone, when Kobayashi became the showtime employee of the futurity model gun giant Model Gun Corporation (MGC) Along the way, he, almost unmarried handed developed the first select fire gas pistol (MGC'due south M93R), the GBB every bit we know it and is responsible for the Tokyo Marui GBB mechanism. He also started Tanio Koba, which produces the odd accessory (rifled barrels, kicking boosters, etc) and the legendary Ruger x/22. Tanio is now 67 and decided to revisit one of his early on guns, the Heckler & Koch VP70, which he felt he could improve upon. The VP70 created a lot of excitement in the airsoft world and I decided to buy one, to encounter if information technology could live up to his reputation. The box is very different to most airsoft boxes. I suppose, externally, it is most like Maruzen's with line drawings of the content and lots of broken English, bullet indicate descriptions of the contents, such equally "BB Air Machin Pistol", "3bursted STOCK" and "For comretitive use". Within, the box is very environmentaly friendly, with just corugated cardboard to protect the contents, no Polystyrene here! The gun itself is not immediately visible. At that place is what looks like the back end of a FN P90, and a square plastic thing on the top, more on which afterward. The gun is, wrapped in a plastic bag to protect it, inside the stock, which doubles as a holster, very much similar the Mauser C96 holster/stock of old. Other than that, there is but a piece of wire with a loop on the top, which is a speedloader of sorts and the manual/leaflet. The stock looks adept and as you withdraw the gun, it feels solid in the mitt. This initial feeling is slightly tempered by the very inexpensive looking slide. It'due south very plastic in appearance and prominent seam marks (which no self respecting springer would conduct) are evident behind the rear sight and under the front of the gun. In that location are seams, too, on the frame, only being darker, and an altogether more than solid looking cloth, they are less noticeable and, probably, more than forgivable. The slide also bears very non-Heckler & Koch markings. Whether the prominence of Tanio Koba markings are due to an enormous ego or a limited licensing budget, I cannot say, but purists won't be impressed in the to the lowest degree. The grip, bears reasonable looking renditions of the HK logo and the VP70 markings, but, otherwise the frame is bear. The stock is nice and solid and the selector switch is prominent (and well made) upwardly on the top left. The stock slots solidly into the gun and together it feels a very solid, consummate unit. Really, there is not that much to see on the VP70. The real gun was the first Polymer framed pistol and features the internal hammer mechanism, so familiar on Glocks these days. The frame is a smart, solid looking charcoal grey material, with little more the HK logo and VP70M on the stock and the metal take downwards catches (within the trigger guard) and rubber button (behind the trigger, but ahead of the grip - Push information technology left to right for safe, reverse to undo) to disrupt the plain-ness. The real steel VP70 has a notoriously heavy (some say 20lb!) trigger pull, but thankfully Tanio Koba chose to skip this and the distinctive U shaped trigger is pleasantly weighted, although the pull is quite long, with a Double Action only activity. As I have already observed, Tanio Koba take gone to no lengths to faithfully replicate the original H&K markings, prefering to testify its origins as an airsoft pistol. There is an obvious marketplace for a replacement slide, without the seams and with proper H&K V70M markings. However, at $200, you cannot help thinking maybe you have already spent enough! The slide is marked "Mod. VP'70" on the forward of the left side, with "9 MM X 19" below it. Further back, on a plate of the same design as the VP70, rather than the after VP70M, that this purports to replicate and the grip matches, is the bizarre script "Warning : REFER TO" with "READ Instruction Manual" below. Behind these two lines, and still on the plate is the TK logo and some serrations to aid racking. On the right side of the slide is the legend "Blueprint & PRODUCED by TANIO KOBA/Japan". The bedchamber cover bears the TK logo and a serial number of "03402", which appears to be identical on all guns. The Tanio Koba magazines look good. The are all metallic, with an easily accessible gas valve and a apartment black stop. I doubtable they will scratch easily, merely that will probably lend them some character, rather than making them look tatty. If all the gun looked this good, no-one would have reason to complain. The magazines hold 27 rounds, in a double stack and are a cascade in design. Although no hopper is provided, there's a clever wire device with a pollex loop on ane end which you use to depress the follower - It works remarkably well. At the rear of the gun, in that location are ii slots. The one at the bottom, behind the Walther P38 style mag catch, takes the lower take hold of of the stock, whilst... ...the upper 1 takes the upper catch and selector rod. The sights on the VP70 are interesting. The rear is a uncomplicated groove, merely the foresight, on the real thing, is made up of two highly polished metal ramps, which produce a shaded slot between them. This gives the upshot of a post. I have no idea of the theory backside this, but TK accept 'replicated' this by painting ii white stripes, which I am sure are not equally effective. Still, in reasonable to practiced light, the event works well plenty and it is not difficult to sight the gun, although others accept said it tin can be in poor light. Tanio Koba are to be praised for producing an airsoft pistol almost exactly the same weight as the real affair, with and without the stock. When fitting the stock to the VP70, it is essential that the selector switch is set up to ane, for semi auto. Obviously, non doing so tin damage the internal mechanism on the VP70 itself. In that location is a lever/catch at the bottom which locks and unlocks the stock onto the gun. And so far (after about 5 or 6 plumbing equipment and removals) there is no manner the take hold of is needed, as the two are a very tight fit, simply no incertitude with further use, the catch will be useful to keep the connectedness tight. The butt at the rear is unpadded, simply is comfortable against the shoulder and hinges (on flexible white nylon tabs, rather than traditional hinges - I don't know if this bears whatsoever similarity to the original) to allow the gun to be stored inside. There is a cutout under the stock, to permit the grip of the VP70 to laissez passer through. There is also a tapering slot cut in each side of the stock, which permits the 'harness plate' to be connected to it. This is supposed to help you attach the stock to a belt and, also, help with darkening by standing the stock slightly off from the torso and keeping it perpendicular. Clearly, you would demand a pretty amorphous jacket to conceal the VP70 and stock. The selector switch, for semi auto (ane) or three round burst (three) is found at the top of the stock. This is very difficult to incommunicable to engage if the stock is non correctly fastened to the gun, only switches with impressive precision one time they are aligned. Carrying out my standard 5m/6 round, off hand test was only partly applicable to this flare-up fire, stock equipped gun, and then I carried out the testing in three phases. Beginning, I fired off 12 rounds in iv bursts of 3, with the stock attached, as required to get burst burn. These (shown as circles on the target) were especially impressive, with all but 1 of the rounds falling in a two.25 inch (5.7 CM) diameter, much ameliorate thantypically seen with full auto/outburst burn down guns, like the Glock 18C, Beretta M93R or WA SVI Prokiller. Switching to unmarried shot, but still with the stock attached, I placed 5 shots in the middle of the target (the square marked hits on the target), only my .25g Bbs jammed in the magazine a number of times and the gas vented, so I gave upwards at that bespeak. The grouping was 2 inches (5 CM) beyond. Reasonable for a GBB, only cipher astounding. Finally, I fired off 6 rounds in hand held semi-automatic mode. This grouping (shown as triangles on the target) is 4 inches (10 CM) in diameter. This is, frankly, poor for a GBB and I will be returning to this with .2g Bbs at some bespeak as I suspect the gun is very sensitive to BB quality. Chrono testing with .2g Excel Bulletin board system produced no misfeeds or gas venting issues over a dozen shots. As I had had fewer bug with the Excel Bulletin board system in chrono testing, I went back to test the semi-motorcar again with them. I fired off around 100 rounds all told, putting the stock on for a few, and then ran two sets of 6 shots. I did experience some jams during this testing and a number of vents, although these seemed to be related to low gas levels. This time, the best grouping (marked as squares on the target above) was 3.25 inches (8.3 CMs) beyond. This fell every bit 4 rounds to the correct of the aim bespeak 1.5 inches (iv CM) across and ii rounds at the top of the target heart, most overlapping. Slightly amend, but given the amount of practice I had (I shot more rounds with this than any other gun in a single session), information technology still seems poor. Over 10 shots, the VP70 averaged 283fps (using 134a gas) outdoors (around 20C). The trigger pull weight exam produced a figure of 1,360g (47.ix ounces), which is a medium-heavy weight trigger pull. Take downwards on the VP70 is impressively simple. With the mag removed, button down the take downwardly catches in the trigger guard. These will lock down. The slide can then exist slid back and well lift off of the frame every bit information technology moves towards the rear. At this indicate, slide the slide forrard and information technology will slide off the frame, revealing the fixed (every bit on the real steel) butt and the recoil jump. There is impressively fiddling inside the VP70, which replicates the real thing well. Internally, the VP70 looks well made, with what looks like stainless steel used in the blowback and hammer/trigger mechanisms. The nozzle itself is plastic, just the frame which supports it is metal, possibly stainless steel. Only time volition tell if the Tanio Koba VP70 is reliable, but information technology looks quite promising. Update - May 2007: I've never seen reports of a broken VP70 and shinjinMC posted this photo of a fully stripped VP70 on Arnies. As tin can exist seen, near of the internal parts are metal. Overall, the VP70 is a disappointment. It certainly shoots well on burst burn down, merely the semi-auto accuracy is not great and information technology vents gas similar a KSC Glock when low on gas (perhaps a trait of the internal hammer mechanisms). The grip and stock look OK (probably no more, though, to be honest), only the end of the slide is not acceptable on a gun at this cost. This is the nigh expensive airsoft gun I have ever bought and I do not feel it represents skilful value for money. Some will say it is non expensive for a gun AND stock and betoken to the quality of the internals, but the external cease is then far below that I have come up to expect of KSC, Western Arms or even Tokyo Marui, that I would say it is poor value for money. If the gun is made in pocket-size numbers, information technology volition, no uncertainty prove to be a popular gun amongst collectors, but other than as a marvel, there are much ameliorate guns to exist had for the money. Soldier2004, from the UKAN forum, besides bought a VP70, from Airsoft Dynamics, and posted the post-obit review. Reproduced here with his permission. I can't actually disagree with anything that snowman has said about the way the gun looks. But that said, the reason I bought this gun in the outset identify, was that I was working in a weapons mill at the time a few of these come in for proofing, I but loved the look and way of this gun. It was a dream to apply. Something that snowman didn't touch on, was the size of this gun. If you've only ever seen one of these in a motion-picture show, you actually tin can be forgiven for thinking that for a gun that looks "similar" in shape to that of (for want of better comparisons) a PPK, Tokarev, certain SIG's or a Mauser HSC, and thinking that this is of like size..........well, it'due south not, this gun is large. I gave the gun a similar examination to that of snowman's, firing indoors, using Abbey Ultra gas and 0.20g bb'southward and firing from a distance of 15ft (not exactly 5m, but nigh enough). I personally idea the gun handled well, over vi shots, the grouping was aroung the 3" mark firing without the stock and i handed, as was the next vi shots firing double handed. Next, I put the stock on and fired another six shots, the grouping was slightly smaller, measuring at ii 1/ii". Then I went on flare-up mode and found the group nigh the two" mark. SM - Accuracy very close to that which I achieved. Whether my gun was set amend or not, I don't know, but I was pleased with the performance. If you're into pistols & CQB, and then this is a slap-up little item. I constitute that the blow back on this gun is quite hard, especially on burst fashion, not as difficult as the TM Desert Eagle listen yous, but a proficient comparison would exist the accident back on my Infinity. I managed to get 1 one/two loads out of a magazine earlier I needed to recharge it again. My but gripes with this is Merely all in all, this gun is a looker, I'm happy with it autonomously from my two gripes. So if anyones got �200+ to spare for a gbb and are looking for something unlike, and so this is the gun for you. Weight : 820g/1260g with stock Realism : *** Real Steel link at World Guns HK PRO webpage on the VP70 Jeff Chan'due south VP70 review - This was the first VP70 review on the spider web, simply has since disappeared (unless you know better...). Heckler & Koch VP70M - Tanio Koba
In the Box
First Impressions
Closer Await
The VP70
The Stock
Shooting Impressions
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Shot FPS 1 260.0 2 279.vii iii 281.half dozen 4 264.0 v 289.half-dozen vi 285.0 vii 286.ane eight 297.vii 9 294.iii ten 292.3 Take Down
Conclusions
Solider2004's comments on the VP70
I recently bought a WA Infinity five" Std, and the VP70 is but slightly larger than that. This is a big framed gun.
SM - Practiced point! This gun is 204MM long about the length of a standard length 1911.
a) The price, y'all'd retrieve that the �200+ that Tanio Koba commands for this gun, it would have a ameliorate slide.
b) The nylon strips that continue the butt plate fastened to the stock. I don't intendance what antone says, simply afterward much usage, these are gonna break/snap. Once again, with a fiddling thought, at that place is the room for improvement with a hinge organisation. No doubt someone will come up with 1.
Quality : ****
Power : ****
Accuracy : **/****(burst)
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